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What VTT Do You Use?

What VTT Do You Primarily Use?


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OCR with snapshots? Wiz! No, I never knew that was possible.
Not only is it default, but you can right click on an image and "copy text from picture" after its in Onenote..

This is not bullet proof, but I've grabbed more than an IP address or two in my time with this. :)

I will usually crop the image up to focus on the text I want to harvest if it's important. Searching works well, but it gets weird where some words will show up in between lines and the like, depending on where it is in the graphic. It's honestly about as good as copy/pasting from PDFs, for good or bad.
 

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I guess the attribution could be added to CL. We have a browser plugin way in the backlog that lets you mark text and images for copying to CL comparable to OneNote's or Pinterest's.
I don't know that the juice is worth the squeeze here. This coupled with the way that I can branch out on a page vertically and horizontally is why I use OneNote instead. My memory is very strong visually, so the physical placement on a page that can go anywhere on the X & Y axis is exponentially more useful to me as a platform. I'd honestly end up using a mind-map software like Obsidian or even a whiteboard than I would use CL for this purpose.

tl/dr: I'm absolutely not the target audience for this, so just ignore this part unless others ask for it. lol

Another one from the backlog: Scan and AI-process an adventure PDF for import in CL. I don't know of international copyright law, but at least in Germany, you are allowed to make backup copies, so, here, it would be OK.
I'm not a lawyer either, but I spent six years of my 20+ years in Content and Records management work for an international company, so I'm a bit more than passingly familiar with this issue. In general, providing something that enters the content is not illegal, provided it does not actively disable any protections on the PDFs itself. It wouldn't be illegal in most places to take content from a PDF that you obtained legally and put that into another tool, be it Foundry VTT, CL, or anything else.

That said, anything imported can't be sold (obviously) and can't be distributed as a pack / adventure itself, even for free, otherwise THEN you really have to work out the legalities.

There's an added wrinkle in Safe Harbor laws from the EU as well, where PII from the EU members cannot be stored on servers located in the US. If you take a PDF with a person's name and address embedded into it by the publisher from digital purchase, you could run afoul of that kind of nonsense. That's just one promenant example; there's others.


Foundry journal entries can be HTML, so you can have any kind of formatting you want. Somewhere in our WoA Zoom calls, an expert in converting adventures to Foundry talked about this.
Yes, the problem I'm having is making multiple formats all available at once, making it easy to update / manage them, and select between them in the Foundry UI. :( The core is SUPER simple and relied on Modules to do ANYTHING and no one tackled it yet. :(

Sometimes I prefer just being in one app with as few open windows as possible.
... wut? ;) 2+ monitors, fo Lyfe!

My idea would be to have journal entries directly linked to CL. When you create a page or an entry in CL, it shows up as a journal entry; when you create a journal entry, it shows up in CL. Also, I would like to be able to save the chat log to CL.
There's probably a solution in-between your idea (sync 100% automatically) and mine (100% manual triggered sync). I definately wouldn't want 100% sync with no filtering / options for partial. Same for the log - I wouldn't want to record all of my combat log entries, spell descriptions, random things my players accidentally trigger. :)

I'm just not sure there's enough information in CL to make determinations easily, and I really wouldn't want to do anything . Maybe be able to sync if a link is made? Mark the types of links that have to be present to trigger a sync of the entry / item?
There are profile settings in CL you could use to store any kind of settings and mappings. Some user-defined "foreign key" field would also be possible.
Roger that! Would you want to maintain records as 1:1 to the journal items, so a delete in one deletes in the other every time, or would prefer to maintain CL's data integrity and just let the foreign key be cleared / replaced if previously linked items get deleted (or something similar)?

Cheers!
 

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There's an added wrinkle in Safe Harbor laws from the EU as well, where PII from the EU members cannot be stored on servers located in the US. If you take a PDF with a person's name and address embedded into it by the publisher from digital purchase, you could run afoul of that kind of nonsense. That's just one promenant example; there's others.
We have that covered: Everything is stored and run in Germany.

Roger that! Would you want to maintain records as 1:1 to the journal items, so a delete in one deletes in the other every time, or would prefer to maintain CL's data integrity and just let the foreign key be cleared / replaced if previously linked items get deleted (or something similar)?
Hmm, the foreign key clearing/replacing sounds preferable. Maybe the user can decide to soft or hard delete?
 

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Sometimes I prefer just being in one app with as few open windows as possible. My idea would be to have journal entries directly linked to CL. When you create a page or an entry in CL, it shows up as a journal entry; when you create a journal entry, it shows up in CL. Also, I would like to be able to save the chat log to CL.
This would be very useful and automatic.
So this would then be a 2 way sync to and from both CL and Foundry
Would this be possible to do with both pages and journal in CL?
I would also like to see a way to import all campaign, including pages and journal into foundry , as well as the possibility to just pick one journal og one section.
So that if I write an adventure in CL, as a section, id like to be able to import only that.
Maybe the best way would also be to make this a module for foundry, so that you can remove/add to all campaigns you have in foundry.

Another thing would be to look at links. (if not thought of already)
So for instance, if you have @character, #gazeeteer in a page or section or journal that in CL links to another "page", it would be handy if the import to foundry automatically made links.
So if you import §section
In that section you have links to @Character and #Place as well as Item
When you then import that section into foundry it would create those "journals" , items and character automatically.
When you then open the journal with you section from CL, there are all links included to the other journals you just imported.
 

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Would this be possible to do with both pages and journal in CL?
I would also like to see a way to import all campaign, including pages and journal into foundry , as well as the possibility to just pick one journal og one section.
So that if I write an adventure in CL, as a section, id like to be able to import only that.
Decomposing this a bit...
There are some clashing terms that I'm finding is starting to confuse me a little, and I want to make sure the logic is sound, so please bear with me (also please correct any logic statement that is incorrect below):

CL Logs contain (X) number of CL Log Entries.
CL Pages can be made 1:1 to any tag you make, but are not automatically made.

When you say "both pages and journal in CL", do you intend:
CL log page with all entries to be a single Foundry Journal page?
OR
CL Log entries to each be a Foundry Journal page?

This may seem like a silly question, but I don't think I'm NEARLY expert or knowledgeable enough about how people use CL Logs...

Is a 1:1 CL Log Pages with journal pages logical for most / all people?
Are there scenarios where a Log may have mixed content that you would want to filter onto more than one Journal page? If so, can that be easily done automatically?

I've been making a single log for a whole chapter of adventures and just keeping a running commentary of stuff that happens during sessions. Plenty of links on those log entries, but I'm not sure the value of a single log with all the entries being made into a Journal page is even relevant to me. The more I think on it, I don't know that the context of the log as a stand-alone thing is worth just bringing into Foundry. In my case, it seems more and more likely that I would prefer CL Pages to be made 1:1, and then the ability to add all logs that mention the page tag to a journal entry (either a new one or foundry journal page made from the CL Page).

With this logic, the following example:
@ character tag for Bob. @Bob is mentioned in CL log entries. A CL Page is made for Bob, with a picture and all that fun stuff.
I sync with Foundry, and it asks me / I choose preferences to make either an Actor with the CL Page for Bob or a Journal Page (NPC type in Monk's Enhanced Journal).

IF I chose the Journal Page for the CL Page, I get a Journal page for Bob. All log entries that mention Bob can be appended to the Foundry Journal Page made for Bob OR made in a separate Journal Page that links. Future log entries would follow suit.

IF I chose Actor, the CL Log Entries mentioning Bob can be appended into the Notes of the Actor Item OR a separate Foundry Journal Page (as with the option above from that point).

The CL Pages would easily be 1:1 with a single Foundry Journal Page, and each CL Category could correspond to a specific type of Journal Page if V10 supports multiples or you're using something like Monk's Enhanced Journal in Foundry v9, so I don't think that's a question.

Thoughts?
 

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Decomposing this a bit...
There are some clashing terms that I'm finding is starting to confuse me a little, and I want to make sure the logic is sound, so please bear with me (also please correct any logic statement that is incorrect below):

CL Logs contain (X) number of CL Log Entries.
CL Pages can be made 1:1 to any tag you make, but are not automatically made.

When you say "both pages and journal in CL", do you intend:
CL log page with all entries to be a single Foundry Journal page?
OR
CL Log entries to each be a Foundry Journal page?
With journals in CL I mean logs.
So one journal as it is called in CL contains many logs.
Could be one log for each session, one for each adventure og anything.
Im not sure how to use this myself as for now.
But if we talk about importing that to foundry, I think it would be fine to import the whole journal , but it could be divided into chapter, where one chapter equals one log entry.
This would depend how people actually used the log in CL, cause I guess there are different ways.
Would be many logs if you use this to only write in little text here and there.
So its a little tricky.

CL pages is where I think its best to create adventures, as far as what ive seen of CL until now.
So lets say you use sections to create one session.
An adventure however could contain many sessions.
But import info foundry would then import everything in that section (page) into one foundry journal

This may seem like a silly question, but I don't think I'm NEARLY expert or knowledgeable enough about how people use CL Logs...

Is a 1:1 CL Log Pages with journal pages logical for most / all people?
Are there scenarios where a Log may have mixed content that you would want to filter onto more than one Journal page? If so, can that be easily done automatically?

I've been making a single log for a whole chapter of adventures and just keeping a running commentary of stuff that happens during sessions. Plenty of links on those log entries, but I'm not sure the value of a single log with all the entries being made into a Journal page is even relevant to me. The more I think on it, I don't know that the context of the log as a stand-alone thing is worth just bringing into Foundry. In my case, it seems more and more likely that I would prefer CL Pages to be made 1:1, and then the ability to add all logs that mention the page tag to a journal entry (either a new one or foundry journal page made from the CL Page).
I think 1:1 is overkill in this case, see my thoughts over.
I think that there could be scenarios where its mixed up and you could end up importing stuff that is not relevant.
With this logic, the following example:
@ character tag for Bob. @Bob is mentioned in CL log entries. A CL Page is made for Bob, with a picture and all that fun stuff.
I sync with Foundry, and it asks me / I choose preferences to make either an Actor with the CL Page for Bob or a Journal Page (NPC type in Monk's Enhanced Journal).

IF I chose the Journal Page for the CL Page, I get a Journal page for Bob. All log entries that mention Bob can be appended to the Foundry Journal Page made for Bob OR made in a separate Journal Page that links. Future log entries would follow suit.

IF I chose Actor, the CL Log Entries mentioning Bob can be appended into the Notes of the Actor Item OR a separate Foundry Journal Page (as with the option above from that point).

The CL Pages would easily be 1:1 with a single Foundry Journal Page, and each CL Category could correspond to a specific type of Journal Page if V10 supports multiples or you're using something like Monk's Enhanced Journal in Foundry v9, so I don't think that's a question.

Thoughts?
If I understand you correct here.
I think there should be a way to import any @character, but I agree that you would mark that as character or NPC. For me this would be more relevant for NPC, since I use DND beyond to import characters into foundry.

Agree with your last one
 

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For me though the most important would be to

1. Import the page where I have written an adventure
The easiest here would be if it imported NPC, items, places into foundry and created those.
But I guess you would have todo a bit yourself in foundry to build encounters by editing the journals after they are imported since the page dont include any bestiary, monster and so on.

2. Import pages of lore, and sync those back. So like I mention above 2 page sync at wish

3. Wishful thinking
If you had a picture, map or dungeon map inside CL, and say you had a code in there to "tag" that as scene.
Then it would be cool if it also created an automatic scene within foundry when you imported that specific page (section)
 

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I recently went from notion to Obsidian. So far loving what it can do.
The import is just importing the markdown right? Or is it importing the whole folder? I stopped using Obsidian a while ago and started using VSCode with Extensions, but the folder structure is still that of obsidian and I didn't know how it would work with that.
 

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The import is just importing the markdown right? Or is it importing the whole folder? I stopped using Obsidian a while ago and started using VSCode with Extensions, but the folder structure is still that of obsidian and I didn't know how it would work with that.
Correct. You import the markdown files from within a folder
 
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